tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post5599310611194226797..comments2023-11-02T08:09:02.234-04:00Comments on Her Bad Mother: Humanity I Love YouHer Bad Motherhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03535958887714152413noreply@blogger.comBlogger89125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-70620355958489499692009-06-03T18:25:50.414-04:002009-06-03T18:25:50.414-04:00Okay, I'm incredibly late getting to this post...Okay, I'm incredibly late getting to this post. Because, well, life. But to add one more small voice to the chorus: very simply, thank you.Tina Posthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12658680379398227047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-49056783024486611712009-06-03T15:35:22.742-04:002009-06-03T15:35:22.742-04:00Since you posted that pic of your daughter nursing...Since you posted that pic of your daughter nursing a doll in that previous post, I have occasionally thought about it. I just think it's wonderful to see a child pretending to feed a baby by nursing instead of bottle-feeding, mainly because it is so rare. I simply do not understand how people can take exception to it or freak out about having their kids see a woman breastfeed. Thank you for posting the picture again!<br /><br />But don't even get me started on the state of CA and this latest ruling!!!caramamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02327695885346537321noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-89950553192955743192009-06-01T00:34:31.038-04:002009-06-01T00:34:31.038-04:00I am going to have my youngest daughter read this ...I am going to have my youngest daughter read this post tomorrow. I hope that she, like me, has a tiny bit of faith restored in humanity. The words you wrote touched my heart and made me cheer! That is a beautiful photo. I wish I had been able to breastfeed all my children but it wasn't meant to be. I am proud my first of four got some of the privilege.<br /><br />Showing my daughter her mother isn't the only one who is ticked off about shooting down same sex marriage will do her good. She is 15 years old. We both pray when "the day" comes for her, the day when she finds "the one" and wants to marry, she will be able to do so. My gorgeous girl is gay and wants to have the right to marry the woman of her dreams and to have that union recognized.<br /><br />Thank you for the post, and for reminding me there still are many good people in the world.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01202487119319647839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-33679539778629028682009-05-31T21:06:28.507-04:002009-05-31T21:06:28.507-04:00I never knew breastfeeding could be seen as anythi...I never knew breastfeeding could be seen as anything other than what it is: feeding your child...<br /><br />My daughter used to nurse her dolls all the time. It's all she knew. And my husband and I thought it was endearing and wonderful.<br /><br />Great post.Mary@Holy Mackerelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04026873878364041551noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-12510319131132479212009-05-29T22:26:10.896-04:002009-05-29T22:26:10.896-04:00A beautiful photo and a beautiful post.
I'd writ...A beautiful photo and a beautiful post. <br /><br />I'd write more, but it might keep me from sitting around and breastfeeding all day.alejnahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07220142310790773053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-13412846951714122562009-05-28T21:15:47.086-04:002009-05-28T21:15:47.086-04:00Here's a story about a little girl at kindergarten...Here's a story about a little girl at kindergarten not being allowed to breastfeed her doll there http://me3boo.blogspot.com/2009/04/breastfeeding-is-socially-unacceptable.html.Jen at Semantically drivenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14643066498784270991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-76540004919477433172009-05-28T17:42:09.880-04:002009-05-28T17:42:09.880-04:00And guess what, some of us DO have "Real Jobs...And guess what, some of us DO have "Real Jobs" AND "sit around" and breastfeed (though if you have any clue about breastfeeding, you'd know its not just about sitting around). Oh yes, and have lives as well. <br /><br />Ugh, what's the point. <br /><br />To the OP - great post & awesome photo. Both my kids nurse their dolls too. Boy & girl.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-58354283048354680062009-05-28T17:40:57.154-04:002009-05-28T17:40:57.154-04:00Oh and because I got caught up in the nonsense and...Oh and because I got caught up in the nonsense and forgot what I intended to say: Thank you, thank you, thank you, from the bottom of my cracked heart, for your last paragraph. My family was hoping that the state of California would pull it's head out of it's ass the other day, because my SIL has planned her wedding already. They will still get married, but sadly it won't be recognized. Yet. One day, hopefully sooner than later it will be.Issahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11309906249557761472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-61315271095919847442009-05-28T17:34:48.378-04:002009-05-28T17:34:48.378-04:00LOL at Mom101. Great answer.
Real job Anon? What...LOL at Mom101. Great answer. <br /><br />Real job Anon? What is that again. Oh wait, raising our children isn't, is it? Since we don't get paid for it, it's not real? Get a life.<br /><br />You can't win with these people. You put a kid in daycare and you are guaranteeing them to a life of depravity and drug use. Stay home with them and you are an idiot, incapable of getting or keeping a job. Some days, I wish they'd all get together and make up their dang mind. <br /><br />Catherine, I adore that picture. Beautiful little baby girl. Don't let the trolls get you down C. Hell, one told me to kill myself yesterday. Serious. Am imagining how horrible their lives must be, to spew such hateful things all of the time. Hugs to you.Issahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11309906249557761472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-47749066983343989282009-05-28T17:27:01.374-04:002009-05-28T17:27:01.374-04:00Anon 9:13, no we pretty much just sit around and b...Anon 9:13, no we pretty much just sit around and breastfeed all day. I tried to order a life over the internet once, but the postage was too expensive and since I don't have a job (since I just sit around and breastfeed all day) I had to cancel the order. <br /><br />Oh well. Maybe next year.Mom101https://www.blogger.com/profile/15468524489744839899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-65968601541372803322009-05-28T10:30:33.145-04:002009-05-28T10:30:33.145-04:00Thank you Catherine! Just thank you. You have said...Thank you Catherine! Just thank you. You have said it all! Yes, the picture of your daughter is beautiful, and yes, we should all be able to love who we love.<br /><br />Don't let that pissant anonymous poster tick you off. I had a similar debate with someone when we were passing same-sex marriage in my state (Vermont). While I used my real name, he was a coward, who hid behind being anonymous! If you feel so strongly and think you're so right, use your real name! Stand up out and proud!<br /><br />Catherine, you're the best!Lezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17984004016653022747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-31722841633363557592009-05-28T09:13:24.440-04:002009-05-28T09:13:24.440-04:00Do any of you actually have real jobs? Or do you ...Do any of you actually have real jobs? Or do you just sit around all day and breastfeed? Just curious. You're special and cool, it must be really great to "be" you. Get a life already.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-60318929167826800422009-05-27T21:31:08.474-04:002009-05-27T21:31:08.474-04:00Nic - that was the best all-caps comment I've ever...Nic - that was the best all-caps comment I've ever received, I think ;)Her Bad Motherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03535958887714152413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-32124834124160413152009-05-27T18:55:46.950-04:002009-05-27T18:55:46.950-04:00Anon - I said that I wasn't interested in ranting/...Anon - I said that I wasn't interested in ranting/defending/arguing the points against those who were claiming the things cited were ugly. Which is an entirely reasonable position to take. Some arguments are futile. Some arguments go nowhere. Some arguments just degrade both sides.<br /><br />This is a blog, not a lecture hall. Just because I say that I'm not willing to argue a certain point, doesn't mean that I'm opposed to *argument*. It means that within the context of a post, I'm not going there.<br /><br />Although for the record, I'm not a relativist, and have little patience for relativism in most cases. So I'm quite willing to go to the mat to defend certain things as 'right' or 'better' and I agree that claiming why any form of love requires further discussion, but again: BLOG. I reserve the right to limit the scope of my arguments. And would prefer to not be called a tyrant or philistine for doing so.Her Bad Motherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03535958887714152413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-10584326678667203962009-05-27T18:20:27.008-04:002009-05-27T18:20:27.008-04:00"I did not say that beauty warrants no examination..."I did not say that beauty warrants no examination or interrogation; I said that it requires no defense"<br /><br />You prefaced it with the statement: "I am not going to argue or rant or defend" - argue is the key term there.<br /><br />"I did NOT state that any and all forms of love are de facto beautiful"<br /><br />Ah, but I did not state that you did. I put in a separate post, in response to various posters above who made statements along those lines. Although you did write: "Tell them that love - good love, strong love, love that doesn't hurt - is never ugly". Now, you could say that "good love", "love that doesn't hurt" are qualifiers here. Fine. But then it has to be argued why this form of love is good and doesn't hurt versus that one, etc. Its not simply self-evident.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-26376712211996969392009-05-27T18:08:49.506-04:002009-05-27T18:08:49.506-04:00Amazing.
I could swear that there was an old cour...Amazing.<br /><br />I could swear that there was an old court decision one time that said that separate was inherently unequal. But clearly, that doesn't apply to love and it doesn't apply to people who are not hereosexual.<br /><br />We'd be nothing without our differences. Why the hell can't we just celebrate them? <br /><br />I'm moving back to California next week and you bet your ass I'll be screaming from the top of my lungs for some real change. It's time. We've waited too long.Overflowing Brainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11424131699024802462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-70778931120934981622009-05-27T18:04:18.101-04:002009-05-27T18:04:18.101-04:00I disagree with Redneck Mommy. Lemme swat 'em! But...I disagree with Redneck Mommy. Lemme swat 'em! But first I need to re-read this beautiful post again and again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-28540257537404766252009-05-27T17:59:30.261-04:002009-05-27T17:59:30.261-04:00FABULOUS POST!!!! ABSOLUTELY FUCKING FABULOUS AND...FABULOUS POST!!!! ABSOLUTELY FUCKING FABULOUS AND I AM SO PROUD OF YOU FOR WRITING IT. WELL DONE, MY FRIEND, WELL DONE. <br /><br />CHEERS!nic @mybottlesuphttp://www.mybottlesup.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-85915415218242285452009-05-27T17:55:56.093-04:002009-05-27T17:55:56.093-04:00Nursing my daughter has been such a beautiful expe...Nursing my daughter has been such a beautiful experience, and I would be honoured if, someday, she wanted to try and replicate that bond with her dolly. I'm getting all teary-eyed thinking about sitting on the couch feeding her little sibling while she pretend nurses a doll beside us. It would be amazing.<br /><br />Insofar as Prop 8 -- I'm so disgusted that it's even an issue. Why is it okay for this prejudice to be written into law? You cannot discriminate against someone for the colour of their skin, but you can discriminate against them because of who they love? How does that remotely make sense, especially in a country that tries to present itself as a world leader?<br /><br />This was a really lovely, insightful, and passionate post. Well done.Tatiana @ averygoodyearhttp://averygoodyear.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-52270226694688064342009-05-27T17:55:44.880-04:002009-05-27T17:55:44.880-04:00It's too bad anonymous didn't actually READ the po...It's too bad anonymous didn't actually READ the post. If she/he had, I don't think you'd be having this argument, Catherine.<br /><br />Or maybe you would. Some people just like to toss rocks in the puddle just to watch the ripple effect.Avasmommyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14467070011044723233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-8290476012991765162009-05-27T17:55:18.314-04:002009-05-27T17:55:18.314-04:00Well here I was going to argue Anonymous's comment...Well here I was going to argue Anonymous's comment only to discover Cat herself did a much better job than I ever could.<br /><br />Better to school them than to swat them I suppose.<br /><br />Just not as much fun.Redneck Mommyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09947243296264284961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-61154588305701243682009-05-27T17:43:21.244-04:002009-05-27T17:43:21.244-04:00Anonymous: really? All that from "beauty needs no ...Anonymous: really? All that from "beauty needs no defense"? Methinks you have some issues.<br /><br />First of all: claiming something along the lines of "beauty is truth; truth, beauty" is neither tyrannical nor philistine. I did not say that beauty warrants no examination or interrogation; I said that it requires no defense. Which, you know, is a suggestion that you can find in the works of any number of philosophers, ancient and modern, not least Socrates, Aristotle, Kant and Hegel. Sure, I was suggesting that certain things have a claim to the title of beauty, but that's a different argument to address (whether the things I cite are in fact beautiful, as opposed to whether there is such a thing as 'Beauty' qua an ideal). <br /><br />And note that I did NOT state that any and all forms of love are de facto beautiful - I distinguished 'good love, strong love, love that does not cause pain' - which excludes a whole lot of instances of "love" that one might reasonably argue are *not* beautiful. But that doesn't mean that it is unreasonable or ignorant to state as a fundamental that LOVE as an ideal is an absolute good. Plato's Symposium is a good reference here. So is Aristotle's Nichomachean Ethics. And yes, I'm being braggartly here - I've spent going on two decades as a student of philosophy, and love and virtue are my area of specialization, so I know whereof I speak.<br /><br />This post is rhetoric; it borders, at points, on hyperbole. It's NOT a treatise on beauty. <br /><br />I welcome criticism, but a little thoughtfulness - and a more careful reading of what's being criticized - is encouraged.Her Bad Motherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03535958887714152413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-40130983979528286082009-05-27T16:46:30.124-04:002009-05-27T16:46:30.124-04:00I love this picture! I have a similar one framed ...I love this picture! I have a similar one framed in our house of our daughter nursing her baby.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-25033730875297541192009-05-27T16:08:12.761-04:002009-05-27T16:08:12.761-04:00On a simpler note: people who say anything along t...On a simpler note: people who say anything along the lines of "I don't understand how love can't be celebrated", "why would you want to stop love", "what's wrong with love", etc. - you're all idiots. You can't think of any form of love, any at all, that isn't perfectly alright? Seriously? You're incapable of making distinctions of any kind at all when it comes to love? Really? This is a question apart from marriage, homosexuality, or anything else. Just anyone who suggests that they cannot distinguish between kinds, degrees, qualities, etc., of love, isn't just a moron, but probably lying, or at least incapable of any degree of thought: any and every person who says something like that has, does and will object to some forms of "love", for any number of reasons.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-32167426786891579762009-05-27T15:58:24.422-04:002009-05-27T15:58:24.422-04:00"So I am choosing, now, to refuse the ugliness. I ..."So I am choosing, now, to refuse the ugliness. I am not going to argue or rant or defend. Beauty needs no defense. It just is."<br /><br />Spoken with the soul of a perfect tyrant, or maybe just the soul of a perfect philistine. Look, I'm all for leaving some things be. Sometimes it may be be the best option. However, only someone monumentally selfish or bottomlessly shallow could look at the various manifestations, assertions, expressions and intimations of beauty in their life, in the world, in literature, in history, etc, and think that none of their particular understanding of it requires no further consideration. Great minds don't think alike, and great souls even less. Still less would one have reason to believe that beauty can be packaged and mass-distributed in some simple or single social construct. Look, if you're happy with yourself, fine, but then keep to yourself if you're not willing or able to subject your own sensibility to any scrutiny. Beauty is found in many forms, not always perfectly compatible. Love of humanity which fails to take that into account will only ever amount to love of self: tyrant or philistine.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com