tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post504879130786467725..comments2023-11-02T08:09:02.234-04:00Comments on Her Bad Mother: Motrin Versus The Moms: When Painkillers Are Attacked, Everybody LosesHer Bad Motherhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03535958887714152413noreply@blogger.comBlogger77125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-21484151933010361122008-11-25T10:34:00.000-05:002008-11-25T10:34:00.000-05:00cmwheeler - I did see it (a friend of mine made it...cmwheeler - I did see it (a friend of mine made it, actually) - it's AWESOME.Her Bad Motherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03535958887714152413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-19412247731193629062008-11-25T10:24:00.000-05:002008-11-25T10:24:00.000-05:00Have you seen this response to it?Good fun. http:/...Have you seen this response to it?<BR/><BR/>Good fun. <BR/><BR/>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpqpAGLS2t4Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-44820147464976023332008-11-21T04:19:00.000-05:002008-11-21T04:19:00.000-05:00Well, hey, I hadn't even heard of or seen that Mot...Well, hey, I hadn't even heard of or seen that Motrin ad. Shows how out of the loop I am. I probably would have been insulted, too. For the same reasons. Because duh, packing around a kid is harsh on your body. That's all that there should be to the ad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-27317727846760576732008-11-19T03:35:00.000-05:002008-11-19T03:35:00.000-05:00"I hate to be conspiracy theory about it, but as f..."I hate to be conspiracy theory about it, but as far as I'm concerned it is more attempt by them to try to cause mommy wars. More attempt to point out our differences."<BR/><BR/>Pass the tin foil hat. I'm old school patriarchy blaming even for an ad written by a woman. Keep us bickering among ourselves - mainstream moms versus alternatives, middle class versus wealthy versus poor - and we won't get enough of a power block to do the real damage to the big issues that everyone is complaining that we're not paying attention to.<BR/><BR/>It's because motherhood is a second-class job description that doesn't credit a resume line. Or so we are led to believe, told over and over again by one insipid commercial after another. Well, Motrin didn't pull any punches in laying it all out there.<BR/><BR/>I think the reaction was swift and big and I don't think anyone lost much time out of their day in enacting that reaction. In fact, I got four loads of laundry done. Meanwhile, the "look over there" effect of pitting those crunchy granola moms against those eye-rolling hipster moms didn't work. We're coming for your corner office; we're turning it into an in-house daycare with a breast pump station. Then, we're coming for better childcare options, family leave, and equal pay. That's for starters.josetteplank.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16790825543155685363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-26870098321416693372008-11-18T21:05:00.000-05:002008-11-18T21:05:00.000-05:00Sling or no sling, you're going to have aches and ...Sling or no sling, you're going to have aches and pains hauling a baby around - at least I did and I wish slings had been more commonplace back in 1997 and 1998 (I know! eons ago!). <BR/><BR/>Anyway, I totally see your point. I felt that way about the VW Ruton (sp?) commercials even though a) I don't drive a mini van and b) my kids aren't babies anymore. I could see why a certain demographic would be irritated, but it really wouldn't stop me from taking/buying Motrin if that was my anti-inflammatory of choice!<BR/><BR/>Hopefully it will blow over soon, maybe it already has! :)carriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04038972194323564240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-60972201267019562992008-11-18T13:39:00.000-05:002008-11-18T13:39:00.000-05:00I hate to be conspiracy theory about it, but as fa...I hate to be conspiracy theory about it, but as far as I'm concerned it is more attempt by them to try to cause mommy wars. More attempt to point out our differences. My opinion? They don't realize our sameness is we CELEBRATE those differences because as mothers we want that to be the world our children inherit. And that sameness says them? "FUCK YOU, ASSHOLES!" And that is as much business as well as attention I'll be offering those sobs.<BR/><BR/>Moronic. The whole lot of every media asshats.Kim @ Ponytaildiaries.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12106809118792122459noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-81403121928685300062008-11-18T13:33:00.000-05:002008-11-18T13:33:00.000-05:00this leaves me speechless :http://gawker.com/50919...this leaves me speechless :<BR/><BR/>http://gawker.com/5091917/twitter-mom-power-innocuous-ads-successfully-bannedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-55725175262762418702008-11-18T12:13:00.000-05:002008-11-18T12:13:00.000-05:00Susan - thanks (*blush*)Susan - thanks (*blush*)Her Bad Motherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03535958887714152413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-10016384425791157722008-11-18T11:50:00.000-05:002008-11-18T11:50:00.000-05:00Wow, I missed the whole scandal, probably because ...Wow, I missed the whole scandal, probably because all I carry around every day is my own tired ass and a bottle of vodka. Hey I do have something in common with moms! VODKAzipbagofboneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02845215266169983575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-60506037660602774292008-11-17T23:14:00.000-05:002008-11-17T23:14:00.000-05:00I remain amazed at your writing. You are by far on...I remain amazed at your writing. You are by far one of the best writers I read on the blogosphere. Have you considered writing a book? You should.Susan Getgoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00837292690923541175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-79360863603154114532008-11-17T22:30:00.000-05:002008-11-17T22:30:00.000-05:00Oh I can't even help it, I was giggling at the end...Oh I can't even help it, I was giggling at the end of that ad. Perhaps just the picture combined with the "tired and crazy" words. I'm not at all offended by this ad. <BR/>Mind you, I don't really get offended by much, but I "held" my baby for 10 months. All day, every day, and yes, we did have a snuggly, but it killed my back, so I never wore it. I remember being sore and just wiped out by the end of the day, but I'll do it all over again with the next one if that's what it takes. :) <BR/><BR/>And if it's hurting me during the day... yup, I'll take Motrin, or Advil or Tylenol. Whatever I can manage to get out of the bottle while I'm wrangling a little body in my arms.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-67709216208226965172008-11-17T20:47:00.000-05:002008-11-17T20:47:00.000-05:00This "Motringate" brought out the worst in some pe...This "Motringate" brought out the worst in some people. <BR/>In the end it wasn't ad or the outrage of the ad that irritated me, it was the ego rubbing and the stat counting. The worst, how many people were taking this opportunity to inform and turned it into blatant self-promotion.<BR/>Your right sometimes there is pain in Motherhood it happens, it doesn't mean you are doing it "wrong" <BR/>Motrin got it wrong because they didn't "Feel Our Pain" What wrong with #motrinmoms, they didn't "feel our pain" either!Susan Lindgrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05413881180512087964noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-15561919353246284402008-11-17T20:45:00.003-05:002008-11-17T20:45:00.003-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.b*babblerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17494191160073990465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-78645024595730476362008-11-17T20:45:00.002-05:002008-11-17T20:45:00.002-05:00Perhaps I'm in the minority here... but..Honestly,...Perhaps I'm in the minority here... but..<BR/><BR/>Honestly, I found the ad to just be tongue in cheek (even the tone of voice) Seriously. I didn't really think that they were pushing the idea that baby wearing was only a way of fitting.<BR/><BR/>I guess I just think there are better things to spend our resources and energy on, and this ad isn't one of them. I wore my baby (and still wear my 2-year-old toddler). Hell yes it hurts sometimes (like a day spent tromping around the EX, for example).<BR/><BR/>I guess where I'm going with this is that when we get our backs up over something as inane as this, it undermines the important things. Really, have we lost our sense of humour?b*babblerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17494191160073990465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-35002420865610004482008-11-17T20:45:00.001-05:002008-11-17T20:45:00.001-05:00Perhaps I'm in the minority here... but..Honestly,...Perhaps I'm in the minority here... but..<BR/><BR/>Honestly, I found the ad to just be tongue in cheek (even the tone of voice) Seriously. I didn't really think that they were pushing the idea that baby wearing was only a way of fitting.<BR/><BR/>I guess I just think there are better things to spend our resources and energy on, and this ad isn't one of them. I wore my baby (and still wear my 2-year-old toddler). Hell yes it hurts sometimes (like a day spent tromping around the EX, for example).<BR/><BR/>I guess where I'm going with this is that when we get our backs up over something as inane as this, it undermines the important things. Really, have we lost our sense of humour?b*babblerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17494191160073990465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-13219858608900991582008-11-17T20:45:00.000-05:002008-11-17T20:45:00.000-05:00Perhaps I'm in the minority here... but..Honestly,...Perhaps I'm in the minority here... but..<BR/><BR/>Honestly, I found the ad to just be tongue in cheek (even the tone of voice) Seriously. I didn't really think that they were pushing the idea that baby wearing was only a way of fitting.<BR/><BR/>I guess I just think there are better things to spend our resources and energy on, and this ad isn't one of them. I wore my baby (and still wear my 2-year-old toddler). Hell yes it hurts sometimes (like a day spent tromping around the EX, for example).<BR/><BR/>I guess where I'm going with this is that when we get our backs up over something as inane as this, it undermines the important things. Really, have we lost our sense of humour?b*babblerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17494191160073990465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-3870548658409957152008-11-17T17:26:00.000-05:002008-11-17T17:26:00.000-05:00Please keep the video up, I want to watch it when...Please keep the video up, I want to watch it when I get home, in less than an hour. I dont want to feel like I am missing out :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-5743001921792530532008-11-17T16:40:00.000-05:002008-11-17T16:40:00.000-05:00"Light as farts with angel wings"LMFAO!! That's h..."Light as farts with angel wings"<BR/><BR/>LMFAO!! That's how mature I am...but, good post as always! I've missed this drama, thanksfully...Miss Merry Sunshinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11762559140180336983noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-15347127414280273992008-11-17T16:38:00.000-05:002008-11-17T16:38:00.000-05:00Yeah, Catherine, guess we are coming from the same...Yeah, Catherine, guess we are coming from the same place, but the truth is I can't even summon enough interest to thoughtfully analyze the ad or the reaction. It's such a tempest in a teapot, I just want it to go away and stop making mom bloggers look like they have WAY too much time on their hands...Don Mills Divahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03733674458423525738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-1439862098598840852008-11-17T16:26:00.000-05:002008-11-17T16:26:00.000-05:00Great post girl. And I was glad to see many kept t...Great post girl. And I was glad to see many kept their heads. And I really hope those who didn't learned from it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-92147621014667458282008-11-17T16:20:00.000-05:002008-11-17T16:20:00.000-05:00Great comment, Bad Mother.I have several reactions...Great comment, Bad Mother.<BR/><BR/>I have several reactions to the ad. First, my youngest child has only been out of a sling for a year, and I find it amazing that the practice of babywearing has come to be considered so mainstream that Motrin is including it in their ad as if it were an inevitable part of motherhood. I was pretty much alone in the practice of babywearing here in Harrisonburg, Virginia, and in Philadelphia, some five years ago, when I was toting my eldest around in a sling, I felt very much in the minority of mothers. I even joined a rather fringe mother's group devoted to promoting the sling, and I felt mildly uncomfortable with the earth-mother aura that surrounded it.<BR/><BR/>In the mother's group that I joined, one of the benefits of babywearing that was pressed upon us was the natural "bonding" that would occur between mother and baby. Although I bought into the babywearing philosophy and it happened to work for me, in retrospect I have found the dogmatism of the babywearing movement offputting. We were told such absurd things as that the practice would lead to a happier, more confident and well-adjusted child later in life. We were told that developmentally, a baby needed to have the womb recreated for them for at least nine months after birth to compensate for the premature entry into the world that having a head necessitated, and that the sling (used everywhere except in the U.S.), was somehow "nature's" way of compensating for this trauma. And as a final sales pitch to appeal to the self-interest of the mother, we were told that it would furnish the magical solution for all the age-old struggles of motherhood: not only could we could accomplish anything with a sling -- cooking, cleaning, laundry, gardening, shopping, breastfeeding, eating, writing, reading, you name it -- but our baby would be happy and we would feel no physical discomfort. <BR/><BR/>I don't know why, but there was definitely a sense in that babywearing group, that if you didn't adopt the babywearing practice, you were somehow committing treason to the higher call of motherhood.<BR/><BR/>I was uncomfortable with this propaganda, and not because there wasn't plenty to recommend about a sling. Rather, it was the way the whole idea of babywearing was promoted like a typical American advertisement: YOU MUST HAVE A SLING AND WEAR IT. If you don't, there's something wrong with you and, by the way, something bad will happen to your baby as well. With respect to mother advice, my standard response has always been: every mom and baby is different and what works for one may not work for another. Thus, while I was proud of feeling like a superior multitasker as I toted my baby around in a sling, I always thought it important to recognize and respect moms who didn't want to go that route, for whatever reasons -- comfort, fashion, or out of concern for the preferences of the baby. <BR/><BR/>What is interesting to me about the Motrin Ad is that it seems to tap into a reservoir of resentment that women have about doing what is "supposed" to be best for baby. It tries to win over our confidence by airing what it assumes to be our dirty secret: a skepticism about stuff that is touted as good for baby when it isn't actually good for us. <BR/><BR/>And then, paradoxically, the ad alienates us is when it tells us that we go to great lengths to serve our babies just to be cool, or to be perceived as good moms. <BR/><BR/>Would we like the ad better if the narrating mom included in the list of problems attendant to babywearing the complaint that it can be viewed as a fashion requirement of motherhood?<BR/><BR/>Instead, the ad goes wrong when it assumes that we delight in being slaves to fashion. Myth-debunking is an important activity for moms to be able to engage in vocally, not secretively and in guilt. The Motrin fails to acknowledge that, and suggests that, despite our efforts and our sacrifices, we are really no more than ditzy trendmongers.dogwooddiaristhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14620645607630640331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-28108254691345764082008-11-17T16:07:00.000-05:002008-11-17T16:07:00.000-05:00Okay, so usually I take the time to read all the c...Okay, so usually I take the time to read all the comments and then decide if I have something to say that someone else hasn't said, but today I am just to busy, and I do have something that I want to say. <BR/><BR/><BR/>I sat there looking at my screen. And felt my jaw dropping. Not because I think its outrageous to think that I a mother who holds children 70% of a 24 hour day, I who stoop, and bend, and play, and crawl, and all those other glorious things, need pain killers. Sometimes you do. ***and I agree that sometimes you just need a vodka and cranberry and to sit outside hidding in the shadows of your yard, while your husband watches the kiddos...but thats another story****<BR/><BR/>What suprised me was the way that it made out that babywearing was some sort of fad, something that you do just to fit in. When are we as moms going to say enough. We do not fit into the mold. There are all types of moms. And further more, just because I don't bring in a 100K a year doesn't mean that I don't have something important to add to the converstation, but that too is another story that you can read about on my blog. <BR/><BR/>:-)Booba Juicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02893124919568283507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-51701013929372913942008-11-17T15:14:00.000-05:002008-11-17T15:14:00.000-05:00Thanks for climbing in my head and writing everyth...Thanks for climbing in my head and writing everything I thought but didn't manage to squeeze out.<BR/><BR/>Brava.Angie [A Whole Lot of Nothing]https://www.blogger.com/profile/02242115803102270369noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-57821385498384666072008-11-17T15:02:00.000-05:002008-11-17T15:02:00.000-05:00Kelly (DMD) - that was kinda my point ... ("I'm no...Kelly (DMD) - that was kinda my point ... ("I'm not sure that it's worthy of the scale of outrage that I'm seeing. Which may make me unpopular for the three or four days that this scandal burns its swath across the Internetverse, but so be it.")Her Bad Motherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03535958887714152413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21558474.post-73183723579121182422008-11-17T13:46:00.000-05:002008-11-17T13:46:00.000-05:00Well you know I adore you and your writing BUT...I...Well you know I adore you and your writing BUT...<BR/><BR/>I just can't work up any righteous anger over the ad. In fact I just posted about how I think it would behoove us to yield the power of the momosphere a little more judisciously.Don Mills Divahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03733674458423525738noreply@blogger.com